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hello well this is Malcolm Robinson and

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you're listening to the paranormal Yuuki

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radio network the UK's biggest

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paranormal Network and this is

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paranormal dimensions with David Jeong

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oh thank of Thank You Malcolm for that

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fine intro now Malcolm was a guest a few

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few shows ago I think it was probably

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the second show but yeah I've started on

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I've got a few little recordings of

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people saying welcome to the show so

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hopefully it'll be a little finger can

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get on with right I've got now last I

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did actually start giving people a call

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out I'll shout out on the on the show

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you know if you would like a shout out

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give me a give me a message on my

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paranormal dimensions page or send me a

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message but I'm gonna give a call here

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today so Mike James Gorman in Wigan UK

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I've got Donnybrook of Macon Georgia USA

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is a mix a er of Kingsley in Norfolk UK

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and I'm gonna give a hello to Irene

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Allen she's the CEO CEO of P paranormal

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radio UK so hello Irene and you're in

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London UK aloof and immersive given me a

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lot of help on this show it does a lot

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of the editing and things on the show I

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believe he's in London and not gonna

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give us the final okay hello today is a

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cookie stream for the New York State USA

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right now it's a face show is you know

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you may recall on the last show I had

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[\h__\h] sellout on well this today is

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Ronald Kinsella Phillips twin brother

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believe it or not they were both born in

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the same day and

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Enron all developed an awful lot of work

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together but Ronald they kind of got

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separate paths in in interests but they

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do collude on certain things you've got

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they've got the twin souls shows also

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honest on this network that they have

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but anyway all waste no more time I'll

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introduce you to Ron Kinsella

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hello

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you and welcome to the show thank you

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very much I'm very honored to be on it

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well I'm honored to have you on as I was

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Philip yes I so won it yes it's a I

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think the subject of the paranormal and

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things that are beyond our own science

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is fascinating and as we were just

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saying earlier when we were saying we

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trap for the truth with it yeah but I've

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had a number of experiences myself David

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if you'd like me to start off oh yes

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absolutely please I was gonna say where

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do you which direction you want to take

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we have separate projects although we do

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commit on certain things together which

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is absolutely there's actually

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beautifully part when I was younger

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certainly I was frightened of the world

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I was frightened if the teachers because

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as you know yourself David in the the

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70s I mean for Phillip am I myself

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the schools were terrifically well

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disciplined I mean they still have the

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cane in effect all that you know so we

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not only did we have them to mind our

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P's and Q's we had to adhere to the

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rules of society and I was I think I

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was very lazy and this was when I was

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of the world frightened of people I was

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terrified of the teacher we had now I've

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made reference to her in a new book I'm

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contract with the wonderful Philip

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mantel with flying dis precise audio

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contract I was gonna bring that up as

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soon as you've mentioned you go here

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in it it's autobiographical as well as

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talking about the reptilians but

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referring to this particular teacher

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when you're subjected to this sort of

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thing as a kid you think it's the norm

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but it wasn't now because this teacher I

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will describe her to give a picture she

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it I'm going to just say as it is she

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very very astute lady she was northern I

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won't give her name that would not be

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fair although I think sadly she would

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have passed I won't wish that upon but

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I'll call her miss book show as a pseudo

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name but I'm working on this teacher and

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now I had her for a year in every

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subject to show yourself would recall in

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school you had a tutor for more or less

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all your lessons is that right David my

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school I mean no I love to go in 65 to

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be honest but yeah yeah we did have a

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various teachers my open to a boys

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the 13 plus believe it or not to get out

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technical school but that's another

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know exactly what you saying about the

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corporal punishment than the cane in

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everything like this school was down the

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road junior school and it was quite

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edges and the hall was in the center so

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made it very dark were you're inside the

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lights were always on which made it

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somewhat cozy and I was always looking

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looking out at the park they got a big

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park opposite and I was just daydreaming

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but this teacher gave me hell just to

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give you an idea of my character before

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I go into the UFOs but I am just I

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wasn't even bothered with English or

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maths I was frightened of everything but

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she I mean she had it into me big time

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and this goes on and on this is a year

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of punishment she we had a spelling

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lesson and IIIi hadn't bothered to learn

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these words and I thought my god is this

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what life amounts to learning is

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spelling or doing a mass you know it's

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hard enough wondering what you're gonna

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do when you leave school but yeah so I

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cheated what I did was she called out

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each word and we wrote down what they

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round two - I said sir so how many of

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you got Ronald what did you get I said

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I've got but I never got more than three

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or two but I said I've I've got sixteen

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mr. butcher that's very good

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lie there's no one next to me to swap it

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with I said I did

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Renea or Pierre you know David I've

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never forgotten that memory I had to

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walk up there I didn't get a good hiding

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but she said class we have a cheat you

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will stand with your dolls list against

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the blackboard I'll see you later

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everything especially the punishment I

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get from a certain person my mother and

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I probably rightly deserved it but I had

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to write each word out 500 times and she

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should this a tweet now that was

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understandable but then we had then we

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about Doctor Who in the Daleks it was

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something I came up with my was excited

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I thought pick me pick me and she did

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the day came when she picked this piece

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of paper out and started reading and

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faster and then slammed the paper down

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on the table in front of me before all

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the pupils and said and this is except

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what she said where's Sharon where's

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chef full stops where's Shelley grammar

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and I realized yes this was constant

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with me and her and Miss mowcher

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I mean the final time I saw her there's

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a lot more in this book about her but

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this is reflecting my character the

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final insult was when I left school went

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to high school which was a blessing the

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teachers were wonderful there I had to

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just happened to see miss butcher and

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she just came up to me out of the blue

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how are you doing I said yes I'm fine

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thank you miss butcher so what do you

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never forget this slide it's funny isn't

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it David the things you don't forget

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really if it did need to go up buying a

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pub tuition you have mass sympathy

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because I told her about to be a writer

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so that ended that sour note now when

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this horror had finished a new horror

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began because it's when I started seeing

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the UFOs now I had seen something when I

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was a child but I won't go into that I

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can't I can't really I don't really want

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to go into that but it's ER I'm writing

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about it anyway there was something I

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saw I can't be absolutely certain what

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it was if this was certain it was when I

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with our grandparents in Felton - from

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Middlesex said a lovely house there's a

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three storey now it's quite big I we

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used to say they're fed up and died on

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summer holidays and our grandma was

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psychic but of course then it wasn't

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really mentioned you didn't talk about

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mediums or UFO is it you just didn't do

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it don't you understand you couldn't

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tell your teachers you could tell your

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father not a label no no you mean yeah a

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lot of crazy women you know in a

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nutshell my grandma was hanging out

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washing and we were with her and of

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course I had no interest in UFOs I

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didn't even believe in the mediums and

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I'm ashamed to say one of them may to

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take Mickey Alba and all of a sudden

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this all came over the garden now at

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first we thought it was a balloon but as

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a 13 year it had been extremely

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inquisitive and I damn well knew that

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was not a balloon and Philip knew as

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well it came right over in a controlled

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manner it arced

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over it arced over the garden and then

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it stopped above Grandma's how head now

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this thing was like a silver ball it was

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it looked heavy it looked like it was

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made of titanium or something of that

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nature and by the size of a football or

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regular football and it just because it

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was quite breezier that day it came over

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in a controlled manner and then just

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hung over grandma's head well we got

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snapped now we looked up at it and David

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it was there for some time it was

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hovering for about three or four minutes

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at the most I would think it's hard when

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you look back but I don't color things

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straight it wasn't a balloon there was

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no court there was no seams it was just

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absolutely solid and it just hung it did

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not move an inch and I knew when Phillip

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and I knew we pointed up and said

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grandma look and she said she bassoon

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come we couldn't believe it she said oh

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closer look at us now I knew she was

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trying to keep us calm she used this she

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was used this fairy you know these

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fairies down the garden told her to

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cover up their mediumship the fairies

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whisper things to her you see but she

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was she was psychic she knew things she

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was amazing but we weren't really

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interested in it at all it was just

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hearsay but she must have seen these

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things before didn't faze her at all

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she didn't faze it and then it moved in

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a controlled manner after about four

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minutes it moved towards the house and

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it stopped before the windows and then

283
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it started moving up but it was having a

284
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good look in the windows as it moved off

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this was like really weird and this was

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technology I knew it was technology and

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as it went oh it went to the roof of the

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house and then he went over well we

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dashed him and ranted inside our house

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and we could see it increase in speed in

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a controlled manner and direct line

292
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faster and faster zip down the solder

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blown and disappeared that was it it was

294
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as it was as peculiar it was

295
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otherworldly it was a very bizarre now

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that was not military I knew even people

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have tried to label as a balloon as a

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atmospheric distortion no it was a clear

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day jazz breezy and it wasn't military

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because the military wouldn't have

301
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developed anti-gravity with mechanisms

302
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they're not abetted not of that

303
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instrument if they wouldn't have done it

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and even if they had they wouldn't even

305
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bother spying on a grandma with the two

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grand seems they're just doing it just

307
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wouldn't be interested so the incident

308
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strangely was slightly not forgotten but

309
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we've never forgotten it never and I

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know I mean I remembered at the time

311
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looking at it

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I remembered my god my God look at it it

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was technology David Byrn obviate not

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our technology it fascinates me because

315
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it wants word for word it's almost the

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same as the story the food said on the

317
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last show you know and it's almost the

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same just about it really is the same

319
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description you know

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why why there was no reaction to it from

321
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your grandmother you know she was just

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she just said the fairies have come to

323
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take a closer look

324
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she definitely seen these things before

325
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it was clear she had seen them before I

326
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don't know what they were but they

327
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weren't from our world what other you

328
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know we do hear these some stories well

329
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we've seen videos and things of little

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like balls come out coming out of the

331
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UFO they seem to be like probes that go

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around don't know could it wonder if it

333
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I've called it an electronic eye because

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when it was there I had the distinct

335
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impression it was watching us it was

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looking so it could be there a version

337
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of an eye or something or camera so it

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evidently is that this is leading up to

339
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the calm before the storm because that

340
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Christmas something happened to me at

341
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home and I it took it takes a long time

342
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to realize the you connect the dots as

343
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David Icke lovingly says you don't

344
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connect the dots you can't until it's

345
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happened and it's gone the incident has

346
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happened but the worst was yet to come

347
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because I had actually seen the people

348
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of this thing or I believe of them who

349
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were spying on us because in the winter

350
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of 1982 I was taken by them now it

351
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sounds very matter-of-factly to say it

352
00:15:24,010 --> 00:15:21,590
that way and you know it's like all

353
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Wyman abductee I'm not I've messed make

354
00:15:28,780 --> 00:15:26,540
it quite clear I am NOT an abductee this

355
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incident did happen it wasn't sleep

356
00:15:32,590 --> 00:15:30,560
paralysis I have never forgotten me

357
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because it's scar me for life I've seen

358
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the doctors that's what I call them only

359
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once I have not seen the doctors again

360
00:15:40,330 --> 00:15:38,720
but every 2 or 3 years after that we see

361
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the UFOs I will tell you what happened

362
00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:45,760
it was in Luton at Pillsbury Crescent I

363
00:15:49,150 --> 00:15:47,330
love that bird that all Victorian houses

364
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big old rooms full of em I shared a room

365
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it was big it's really big I mean it's

366
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beautifully spacious house and of course

367
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the Victorian houses were built so vast

368
00:16:01,870 --> 00:16:00,380
but it was one night I can't remember

369
00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:01,880
exactly what night because either as

370
00:16:06,220 --> 00:16:04,010
I've just written on here I've just made

371
00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:06,230
it a comment on here on here you know it

372
00:16:09,910 --> 00:16:08,210
begins within a weekday and of when

373
00:16:13,300 --> 00:16:09,920
granddad was at work this is to do with

374
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the all I said I don't think you'll

375
00:16:17,379 --> 00:16:15,529
raise an eyebrow as is relatively

376
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undocumented account that the

377
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particulars are certainly not vague

378
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children simply don't record events such

379
00:16:24,429 --> 00:16:22,850
as this I had no interest in

380
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documentation or Diaries that you won't

381
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you're a kid you know it happened in

382
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1982 after these its session with the

383
00:16:33,819 --> 00:16:32,329
orb and this has it's what they showed

384
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me after as it scarred me for life I've

385
00:16:39,819 --> 00:16:35,600
never forgotten it I was taken from my

386
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bed one night I was taken up just I went

387
00:16:42,340 --> 00:16:41,180
through the roof David I just went

388
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through the whole house I can't believe

389
00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:44,569
it so I had no knowledge of UFOs it had

390
00:16:48,549 --> 00:16:46,490
no interest in them especially even

391
00:16:52,119 --> 00:16:48,559
after all by Ida it's weird because it's

392
00:16:53,319 --> 00:16:52,129
like an f3 or paradox you just seemed to

393
00:16:56,019 --> 00:16:53,329
just accept her after a while and just

394
00:16:57,519 --> 00:16:56,029
move on but it didn't stop so I was

395
00:16:59,139 --> 00:16:57,529
taken through the roof of this house and

396
00:17:01,629 --> 00:16:59,149
I could see something very dark very

397
00:17:02,980 --> 00:17:01,639
dark in the sky it was darker than the

398
00:17:05,949 --> 00:17:02,990
sky I think this guy must have been

399
00:17:08,380 --> 00:17:05,959
evidently bluish or dark blue but it was

400
00:17:10,409 --> 00:17:08,390
black I couldn't discern the shape but

401
00:17:12,909 --> 00:17:10,419
there was something hang in there well I

402
00:17:14,919 --> 00:17:12,919
must have passed out Lucas may not know

403
00:17:16,860 --> 00:17:14,929
I'm obviously in it evidently logically

404
00:17:19,809 --> 00:17:16,870
I'm in it because I'm seated in this

405
00:17:22,419 --> 00:17:19,819
wheelchair and this we'll share is white

406
00:17:24,399 --> 00:17:22,429
it's very modern it's not like our

407
00:17:26,409 --> 00:17:24,409
wheelchairs it I knew it was a

408
00:17:27,909 --> 00:17:26,419
wheelchair but very very modern and I

409
00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:27,919
was in this room it looked like an

410
00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:29,450
operating theatre I'll put it that way

411
00:17:33,820 --> 00:17:31,490
it didn't look intimidating I mean I had

412
00:17:36,669 --> 00:17:33,830
a table there I cannot remember the

413
00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:36,679
particulars of the room I can't but what

414
00:17:39,940 --> 00:17:38,090
I do remember is the table and I

415
00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:39,950
remember the three doctors standing

416
00:17:44,110 --> 00:17:42,890
before me and one behind me now I call

417
00:17:45,669 --> 00:17:44,120
them doctors I don't know what they were

418
00:17:47,980 --> 00:17:45,679
I'll tell you what they weren't people

419
00:17:50,909 --> 00:17:47,990
they were taller than people and they

420
00:17:53,470 --> 00:17:50,919
were clad from head to toe in a uniform

421
00:17:55,450 --> 00:17:53,480
it was like a radiation outfit but it

422
00:17:57,610 --> 00:17:55,460
was more modern that even their eyes

423
00:18:00,250 --> 00:17:57,620
were you can see them there were

424
00:18:01,919 --> 00:18:00,260
advisors there was all all completely

425
00:18:04,870 --> 00:18:01,929
clad even the hands of wore gloves and

426
00:18:06,669 --> 00:18:04,880
they would obviously start on because as

427
00:18:09,039 --> 00:18:06,679
I woke up I found I couldn't really turn

428
00:18:10,630 --> 00:18:09,049
to look at the person behind me I knew

429
00:18:11,860 --> 00:18:10,640
there was someone behind me there was

430
00:18:14,970 --> 00:18:11,870
someone definitely behind me I couldn't

431
00:18:17,950 --> 00:18:14,980
turn enough to see him but he spoke and

432
00:18:19,210 --> 00:18:17,960
I are gather he was in charge because he

433
00:18:21,039 --> 00:18:19,220
was the one who did all the talking he

434
00:18:23,799 --> 00:18:21,049
said um the first thing he said was

435
00:18:25,419 --> 00:18:23,809
quite incredibly said we're going to

436
00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:25,429
we're going to perform an operation on

437
00:18:29,710 --> 00:18:26,810
you Ronald

438
00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:29,720
now when he said my name David I felt

439
00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:33,050
absolute choice one dermis and this was

440
00:18:37,020 --> 00:18:34,810
all to see in an english-language

441
00:18:42,010 --> 00:18:37,030
language or was it just you think

442
00:18:44,980 --> 00:18:42,020
implanted into your head that's a good

443
00:18:46,780 --> 00:18:44,990
point good point I cannot say I can't

444
00:18:49,270 --> 00:18:46,790
answer that it was English and it

445
00:18:53,470 --> 00:18:49,280
sounded like a an authoritative male

446
00:18:55,870 --> 00:18:53,480
English I would say perhaps middle-aged

447
00:18:58,810 --> 00:18:55,880
I don't know but the words came clean

448
00:19:00,550 --> 00:18:58,820
and risk and I'd never saw any mouths to

449
00:19:02,470 --> 00:19:00,560
move I don't know how it was done but I

450
00:19:06,310 --> 00:19:02,480
just heard this and he was the voice was

451
00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:06,320
really assure but it was the suggestion

452
00:19:10,990 --> 00:19:08,930
of the operation and I don't know why I

453
00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:11,000
just knew it was to do with the head I

454
00:19:14,650 --> 00:19:12,890
remember pleading with him I couldn't

455
00:19:16,030 --> 00:19:14,660
turn to I couldn't see him a couldn't

456
00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:16,040
turn I don't know I just couldn't move

457
00:19:19,540 --> 00:19:16,850
to see him

458
00:19:21,790 --> 00:19:19,550
I said no III implore you I don't want

459
00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:21,800
this operation please and he said no it

460
00:19:25,810 --> 00:19:24,170
is for your own good and he did Sarah

461
00:19:28,750 --> 00:19:25,820
membered him stating quite clearly I'm

462
00:19:31,150 --> 00:19:28,760
going to promise you one thing we will

463
00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:31,160
not harm you now I knew he wouldn't they

464
00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:33,650
one unkind but they were an authority

465
00:19:37,030 --> 00:19:35,450
and they were going to do what they were

466
00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:37,040
going to do and as I said this was this

467
00:19:42,700 --> 00:19:39,770
was not a dream I was there and he

468
00:19:45,490 --> 00:19:42,710
produced I saw his left hand

469
00:19:47,530 --> 00:19:45,500
it was gloved and I couldn't really I

470
00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:47,540
dated I don't know how many digits he

471
00:19:52,270 --> 00:19:49,490
had on this and I wasn't looking at that

472
00:19:54,370 --> 00:19:52,280
I was looking what he had in it I didn't

473
00:19:55,660 --> 00:19:54,380
I can't I wish that if I had if someone

474
00:19:56,740 --> 00:19:55,670
could take me back I'd happily do it

475
00:19:58,270 --> 00:19:56,750
I've married a zero I take a

476
00:19:59,920 --> 00:19:58,280
lie-detector test anything I'll do it

477
00:20:01,630 --> 00:19:59,930
I'll go back with regression I want to

478
00:20:04,690 --> 00:20:01,640
see what was the bad was all about yeah

479
00:20:07,780 --> 00:20:04,700
but he produced this rod with his nodule

480
00:20:09,970 --> 00:20:07,790
on the end and he pressed it on the palm

481
00:20:13,210 --> 00:20:09,980
of my hand very gently and when he did I

482
00:20:14,530 --> 00:20:13,220
went out now evidently remove head no

483
00:20:16,180 --> 00:20:14,540
they must have done an operation because

484
00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:16,190
I was dropping for the damn thing I was

485
00:20:20,830 --> 00:20:19,250
dropping very fast and I can't remember

486
00:20:22,120 --> 00:20:20,840
much about it although I was terrified I

487
00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:22,130
was actually falling from the thing as

488
00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:24,890
on my own but I was going back into the

489
00:20:31,750 --> 00:20:28,250
house and I was buzzing I felt this real

490
00:20:35,950 --> 00:20:31,760
electric charge pulsing all over me my

491
00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:35,960
hair felt electric it felt electric and

492
00:20:39,550 --> 00:20:37,850
as I was dropping I could see the roof

493
00:20:40,270 --> 00:20:39,560
of the loft as I was coming through and

494
00:20:41,860 --> 00:20:40,280
then I could see

495
00:20:44,230 --> 00:20:41,870
the bed and as I was reaching the bed I

496
00:20:46,120 --> 00:20:44,240
felt the little bump and that's

497
00:20:48,220 --> 00:20:46,130
absolutely horrendous because I knew

498
00:20:50,250 --> 00:20:48,230
damn well it was happening you know

499
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:50,260
that's your confirmation and the film

500
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:53,450
maybe on the back on the bed so I could

501
00:20:58,120 --> 00:20:55,490
fill the sheets in the bed in the little

502
00:21:00,430 --> 00:20:58,130
bump and then they did the worst thing

503
00:21:02,380 --> 00:21:00,440
imaginable and ironic this thing was

504
00:21:04,120 --> 00:21:02,390
more horrific than the doctors

505
00:21:05,050 --> 00:21:04,130
themselves I call them doctors I don't

506
00:21:10,060 --> 00:21:05,060
know what they were but they weren't

507
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:10,070
people they projected and this was a

508
00:21:16,660 --> 00:21:13,490
hologram we're 13 years or your kid

509
00:21:18,250 --> 00:21:16,670
you're very very very focused you know

510
00:21:19,510 --> 00:21:18,260
what you're looking at you know you

511
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:19,520
don't take a knee don't have any

512
00:21:22,810 --> 00:21:21,050
nonsense kiss are wonderful of that they

513
00:21:24,820 --> 00:21:22,820
can give you an exact description of

514
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:24,830
something you know when they see

515
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:25,970
something I'll give you an exact

516
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:28,210
description because I'm not tainted with

517
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:31,010
colorful fancies at the time and I may

518
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:34,010
see them but they don't do it and I saw

519
00:21:38,350 --> 00:21:36,530
this massive it was the head not the

520
00:21:40,120 --> 00:21:38,360
body the head is huge

521
00:21:42,070 --> 00:21:40,130
holographic head and it was odd because

522
00:21:43,690 --> 00:21:42,080
it was wavering it was wavering like a

523
00:21:46,660 --> 00:21:43,700
hologram like it was an in Oh in water

524
00:21:50,020 --> 00:21:46,670
it was a hologram of a huge chessick let

525
00:21:51,730 --> 00:21:50,030
and it was grinning and this Cheshire

526
00:21:53,590 --> 00:21:51,740
Cat wasn't like the one from Alice in

527
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:53,600
Wonderland this was a girl the

528
00:21:58,450 --> 00:21:55,730
penultimate the or the ultimate horror

529
00:22:00,310 --> 00:21:58,460
this was an absolute nightmare all his

530
00:22:02,260 --> 00:22:00,320
teeth was showing it was grinning and

531
00:22:04,780 --> 00:22:02,270
they kept it there for ages

532
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:04,790
he was wavering and waving then he went

533
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:10,010
now it all ended that was it Capone all

534
00:22:15,430 --> 00:22:13,010
done but after that every two or three

535
00:22:16,450 --> 00:22:15,440
years thought of and I have seen the

536
00:22:19,270 --> 00:22:16,460
UFOs

537
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:19,280
now I kept questioning David why on

538
00:22:24,850 --> 00:22:21,770
earth would they show me something so

539
00:22:26,830 --> 00:22:24,860
damn bizarre as that why did they do it

540
00:22:29,170 --> 00:22:26,840
why did the dirt that was if I want to

541
00:22:31,420 --> 00:22:29,180
clear they had left here that it may not

542
00:22:33,130 --> 00:22:31,430
have made such an impact but I think it

543
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:33,140
was that are doing and I know why they

544
00:22:38,230 --> 00:22:35,810
did it it took me years to figure out

545
00:22:41,380 --> 00:22:38,240
why they did that in fact I mean I was

546
00:22:44,050 --> 00:22:41,390
only 39 50 now so it was only a couple

547
00:22:47,350 --> 00:22:44,060
of years ago it tweaked I know what they

548
00:22:50,260 --> 00:22:47,360
did and they were very smart because I

549
00:22:51,610 --> 00:22:50,270
had evidently disturbed them through

550
00:22:52,900 --> 00:22:51,620
their operation

551
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:52,910
you know before they're going to do it

552
00:22:55,330 --> 00:22:54,050
well they said they were going to do

553
00:22:58,050 --> 00:22:55,340
I'm sure what they did but they did

554
00:23:00,370 --> 00:22:58,060
something because I interrupted them

555
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:00,380
perhaps they felt that when they put me

556
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:01,610
back down they thought we're going to

557
00:23:04,540 --> 00:23:02,930
sort this out we've got to do something

558
00:23:05,950 --> 00:23:04,550
because they have is it evident no it's

559
00:23:08,020 --> 00:23:05,960
very well so they plucked something out

560
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:08,030
of my head a few years ago a today I'd

561
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:09,530
seen Alice in Wonderland I wasn't really

562
00:23:13,330 --> 00:23:11,570
interested in Alice in Wonderland

563
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:13,340
no no disrespect to the wonderful

564
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:15,170
brilliant Lewis Carroll

565
00:23:18,750 --> 00:23:17,090
no but I just wasn't really into it but

566
00:23:21,340 --> 00:23:18,760
I suppose they picked it out and

567
00:23:22,780 --> 00:23:21,350
projected that because when I go and see

568
00:23:24,460 --> 00:23:22,790
a psychologist I said well they showed

569
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:24,470
me the Cheshire Cat oh hang on a minute

570
00:23:28,780 --> 00:23:26,090
this I kind of just wait a bit wait a

571
00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:28,790
minute what you've been down the rabbit

572
00:23:32,770 --> 00:23:31,370
hole you're getting confused you you're

573
00:23:34,300 --> 00:23:32,780
getting confused with the Alice in

574
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:34,310
Wonderland do you see where I'm going

575
00:23:41,020 --> 00:23:38,210
with this it seemed very very smart

576
00:23:42,970 --> 00:23:41,030
yeah very clever and I haven't seen

577
00:23:45,670 --> 00:23:42,980
since then I've never seen the doctors

578
00:23:48,340 --> 00:23:45,680
again I've never seen them they were as

579
00:23:50,620 --> 00:23:48,350
I said they weren't unkind but what

580
00:23:51,910 --> 00:23:50,630
happened after that at school I don't

581
00:23:54,730 --> 00:23:51,920
know how long I can't remember how long

582
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:54,740
it was a long afterwards I had a fit and

583
00:23:58,330 --> 00:23:56,930
it was to do with the head because I was

584
00:24:01,510 --> 00:23:58,340
clutching my head in these three

585
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:01,520
incredible panes in geography and they

586
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:03,170
were so bad I crushed my head and just

587
00:24:07,060 --> 00:24:04,970
collapse and I fell onto the font or

588
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:07,070
pupil but then pushed me off him then I

589
00:24:10,210 --> 00:24:08,450
went onto the floor and Philip said he

590
00:24:14,500 --> 00:24:10,220
was there I was fitting for a few

591
00:24:19,170 --> 00:24:14,510
minutes and they pulled me out and I've

592
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:21,520
but of course I didn't connect the dots

593
00:24:25,930 --> 00:24:23,330
I couldn't happen you until later on in

594
00:24:28,150 --> 00:24:25,940
life you think my cup is it connected I

595
00:24:30,940 --> 00:24:28,160
can't be sure but it seems damn Oh

596
00:24:35,110 --> 00:24:30,950
doesn't it and whether they did good or

597
00:24:37,900 --> 00:24:35,120
bad I mean Andrew a champion he attended

598
00:24:39,580 --> 00:24:37,910
a session as I said I've only just

599
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:39,590
recently come out and spoken about this

600
00:24:44,050 --> 00:24:41,330
it's taking a lot of guts you know

601
00:24:45,490 --> 00:24:44,060
because people do your work colleagues I

602
00:24:46,870 --> 00:24:45,500
mean my goodness when I go to work I

603
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:46,880
think what it ain't Sinkin Lee they must

604
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:49,490
think I'm nuts but I'm not going to let

605
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:51,770
it I'm not going to let it lie I have to

606
00:24:55,330 --> 00:24:53,570
get this out to people you know because

607
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:55,340
if they've had encounters or things that

608
00:24:59,230 --> 00:24:56,690
have occurred in their laughing it mean

609
00:25:02,230 --> 00:24:59,240
just ease their their their own

610
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:02,240
situation but yes I had to fit and I oh

611
00:25:06,310 --> 00:25:05,090
oh yes and after that they asked me if I

612
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:06,320
wanted to go and see a doctor I was

613
00:25:09,730 --> 00:25:07,730
terrified of doctors as it no

614
00:25:11,380 --> 00:25:09,740
no no because this to do with the head I

615
00:25:12,550 --> 00:25:11,390
didn't want them to going in there now

616
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:12,560
they were very good the school were very

617
00:25:15,370 --> 00:25:14,330
good they I mean a stop at high school

618
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:15,380
they were lovely I'm not most of the

619
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:17,690
teachers there my after the dragon we

620
00:25:22,510 --> 00:25:20,930
had they were wonderful they sent me

621
00:25:24,010 --> 00:25:22,520
home and I don't think I had the rest of

622
00:25:26,260 --> 00:25:24,020
week on Friday banging headache but I

623
00:25:27,850 --> 00:25:26,270
recovered alright and as I said I have

624
00:25:28,930 --> 00:25:27,860
never seen them again but I have seen

625
00:25:31,870 --> 00:25:28,940
the UFOs

626
00:25:33,790 --> 00:25:31,880
so this this later on in life it was

627
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:33,800
much later when like yourself you know

628
00:25:37,990 --> 00:25:36,410
David Icke there was some burning desire

629
00:25:40,180 --> 00:25:38,000
to get this out to people I didn't know

630
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:40,190
which how to do it or which way to do it

631
00:25:45,850 --> 00:25:42,770
but it was just to get this this out

632
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:45,860
there to them you know and as I said I

633
00:25:52,570 --> 00:25:49,250
had a recently an interview one moocher

634
00:25:54,430 --> 00:25:52,580
was filmed talking about this and it's

635
00:25:55,690 --> 00:25:54,440
the first time I've ever done it it's

636
00:25:57,310 --> 00:25:55,700
the first time I've ever I think it was

637
00:25:59,170 --> 00:25:57,320
last year the year before I did it I

638
00:26:01,180 --> 00:25:59,180
actually speak out about it and you get

639
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:01,190
them as fireless comments from people

640
00:26:04,780 --> 00:26:03,650
who sit you know one of them and I'm

641
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:04,790
going to say it I don't mind I've got

642
00:26:13,030 --> 00:26:10,010
nothing to hide he said are the archons

643
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:13,040
as camp as Ronald Kinsella and I will

644
00:26:18,940 --> 00:26:16,490
camp at all and another one was what a

645
00:26:22,510 --> 00:26:18,950
pair of lying old Queens now I'd like to

646
00:26:24,340 --> 00:26:22,520
make it known quite aptly but I have

647
00:26:30,190 --> 00:26:24,350
never lied in my life I've the only time

648
00:26:31,870 --> 00:26:30,200
tonight was when I cheated a these

649
00:26:33,550 --> 00:26:31,880
people these people are just nasty they

650
00:26:35,650 --> 00:26:33,560
though I think that's all they've got in

651
00:26:36,970 --> 00:26:35,660
life is to be nasty to other people you

652
00:26:39,430 --> 00:26:36,980
know I mean of course they're probably

653
00:26:41,140 --> 00:26:39,440
got no skills of their own anyway and

654
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:41,150
there's probably jealousy in the end

655
00:26:44,650 --> 00:26:43,250
that something's not happened to them I

656
00:26:48,010 --> 00:26:44,660
think that's the only thing I can put it

657
00:26:50,470 --> 00:26:48,020
down to my goodness I wouldn't wish that

658
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:50,480
to happen to them no they don't know me

659
00:26:55,300 --> 00:26:52,490
they don't know me at all and they

660
00:26:58,060 --> 00:26:55,310
attacked my character and my own my own

661
00:26:59,770 --> 00:26:58,070
my own self you see in life we all have

662
00:27:02,770 --> 00:26:59,780
our own paths we're all unique were

663
00:27:05,140 --> 00:27:02,780
important and the thing is it depends on

664
00:27:06,910 --> 00:27:05,150
what what road you've taken with people

665
00:27:09,270 --> 00:27:06,920
mine wasn't 2 billion with certain

666
00:27:12,730 --> 00:27:09,280
people you know and I'll say that

667
00:27:15,100 --> 00:27:12,740
loosely so when you get older you're a

668
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:15,110
bit more wary of people not yourselves

669
00:27:19,060 --> 00:27:17,210
or because we're good friends and but

670
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:19,070
you know what we may not know where they

671
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:20,850
come in and they you know you're

672
00:27:23,690 --> 00:27:22,530
a little bit worried because you know

673
00:27:25,910 --> 00:27:23,700
you don't know how they're gonna take

674
00:27:28,190 --> 00:27:25,920
you and I don't know a lot of people

675
00:27:29,660 --> 00:27:28,200
because it leads UFO experiences I know

676
00:27:33,410 --> 00:27:29,670
they're laughing behind my back

677
00:27:37,790 --> 00:27:33,420
you know but as I said it takes a lot to

678
00:27:39,470 --> 00:27:37,800
come out with it say oh these people are

679
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:39,480
anyway they just thought the old school

680
00:27:42,890 --> 00:27:41,610
bullies but when you actually confront

681
00:27:48,260 --> 00:27:42,900
them with something they usually the

682
00:27:50,150 --> 00:27:48,270
biggest killers of the law his name who

683
00:27:52,100 --> 00:27:50,160
did it to one he confronted this troll

684
00:27:53,870 --> 00:27:52,110
who was bullying him or said something

685
00:27:59,960 --> 00:27:53,880
and is it that I think it was he went

686
00:28:01,790 --> 00:27:59,970
women week experience for so for school

687
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:01,800
when you actually confront someone when

688
00:28:05,780 --> 00:28:03,210
you tell me you've had enough of it you

689
00:28:06,140 --> 00:28:05,790
know you know I was very easygoing at

690
00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:06,150
school

691
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:08,370
but one day I just broke I just does

692
00:28:11,870 --> 00:28:10,410
just cracks and I've really confronted

693
00:28:14,090 --> 00:28:11,880
this believe it had always been Elliott

694
00:28:20,270 --> 00:28:14,100
and things changed you almost become a

695
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:20,280
best friend Wow yeah yes it is and but

696
00:28:24,530 --> 00:28:23,010
this led on this incident with the

697
00:28:26,540 --> 00:28:24,540
doctors which was quite a long time to

698
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:26,550
go as I said I've never seen them again

699
00:28:30,860 --> 00:28:28,610
and I would if I could get a good

700
00:28:36,020 --> 00:28:30,870
regress someone who could regress you

701
00:28:37,220 --> 00:28:36,030
profession do that sounds fascinating do

702
00:28:41,210 --> 00:28:37,230
you think they may have put an implant

703
00:28:43,010 --> 00:28:41,220
in your head off I cannot say David but

704
00:28:44,210 --> 00:28:43,020
it's funny isn't it but after that every

705
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:44,220
two or three years and I didn't know

706
00:28:47,180 --> 00:28:45,690
about him I didn't know even about the

707
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:47,190
Roswell incident then I didn't know

708
00:28:50,870 --> 00:28:48,930
about Rendlesham I didn't know any there

709
00:28:53,090 --> 00:28:50,880
wasn't be the interest in UFOs not

710
00:28:55,250 --> 00:28:53,100
really then I mean we hear of them but I

711
00:28:57,740 --> 00:28:55,260
don't know it's quite possible I have no

712
00:28:59,360 --> 00:28:57,750
idea I mean the the fit my head in class

713
00:29:01,580 --> 00:28:59,370
could it be that they did it it sadly

714
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:01,590
went wrong or what were they correcting

715
00:29:07,010 --> 00:29:04,170
a problem that they foresaw a time and

716
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:07,020
it would happen I don't know but this

717
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:09,210
led me into the interesting topic of

718
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:11,130
UFOs especially about the reptilians we

719
00:29:15,230 --> 00:29:13,770
hear about as much as would be greys but

720
00:29:18,050 --> 00:29:15,240
I'm going to tell you this David I have

721
00:29:19,580 --> 00:29:18,060
to laugh at this through this interest

722
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:19,590
of this topic

723
00:29:22,790 --> 00:29:21,450
I remember reading some books I won't

724
00:29:24,830 --> 00:29:22,800
give the names of the authors that would

725
00:29:26,420 --> 00:29:24,840
be unfair where they were depicting

726
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:26,430
these Nordic types as being ever so

727
00:29:30,590 --> 00:29:28,050
friendly and they're concerned about

728
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:30,600
peace on earth and you know they're they

729
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:32,130
they want everything they're concerned

730
00:29:34,700 --> 00:29:34,050
about nuclear warfare or atomic warfare

731
00:29:36,590 --> 00:29:34,710
then

732
00:29:38,870 --> 00:29:36,600
sources that landed and something just

733
00:29:40,940 --> 00:29:38,880
didn't add up when I was reading these I

734
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:40,950
kept thinking something just didn't add

735
00:29:46,070 --> 00:29:43,890
up now there was a case of a ship which

736
00:29:48,769 --> 00:29:46,080
I believe happened that it approached a

737
00:29:52,700 --> 00:29:48,779
military base and it it was able to

738
00:29:54,649 --> 00:29:52,710
successfully disarm temporarily some of

739
00:29:57,380 --> 00:29:54,659
the nuclear weapons and then flit off

740
00:29:59,360 --> 00:29:57,390
they've been doing this non on on and

741
00:30:01,340 --> 00:29:59,370
off so yeah well as I said to Philip

742
00:30:03,470 --> 00:30:01,350
could this be rather like an illusion

743
00:30:05,779 --> 00:30:03,480
not not physically but they're giving us

744
00:30:07,820 --> 00:30:05,789
the impression that they're concerned

745
00:30:10,220 --> 00:30:07,830
and sometimes they knock out a few silos

746
00:30:13,060 --> 00:30:10,230
so there we are we we give me example

747
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:13,070
all they needed so sorry just a

748
00:30:16,730 --> 00:30:14,970
demonstration what they can do yeah

749
00:30:21,139 --> 00:30:16,740
sorry okay yeah give me to interrupt you

750
00:30:23,090 --> 00:30:21,149
I mean the point being is if they were

751
00:30:25,850 --> 00:30:23,100
so concerned they didn't they won't even

752
00:30:28,549 --> 00:30:25,860
need to contact us if they were so

753
00:30:31,010 --> 00:30:28,559
concerned about global the the safety of

754
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:31,020
our world and the planet as a whole they

755
00:30:34,310 --> 00:30:32,610
demonstrated their power quite happily

756
00:30:36,710 --> 00:30:34,320
they could just simply go along and do

757
00:30:39,740 --> 00:30:36,720
every single solid wipe them out we have

758
00:30:40,970 --> 00:30:39,750
beer we build more of the weapons again

759
00:30:42,139 --> 00:30:40,980
until we think all right we've got a

760
00:30:44,029 --> 00:30:42,149
slap on the hand we can't this this

761
00:30:46,490 --> 00:30:44,039
pointless making nuclear weapons they

762
00:30:48,620 --> 00:30:46,500
haven't and they won't David that's the

763
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:48,630
point I'm trying to raise certainly not

764
00:30:52,700 --> 00:30:50,370
from what we're seeing there is no good

765
00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:52,710
that has come from them at all you know

766
00:30:57,110 --> 00:30:55,440
they're going on about these people and

767
00:30:58,970 --> 00:30:57,120
I'm not denouncing any author

768
00:31:01,730 --> 00:30:58,980
I'm not denouncing any book this is my

769
00:31:04,039 --> 00:31:01,740
own opinion and my own opinion and I'm

770
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:04,049
entitled to it I have not seen one good

771
00:31:07,639 --> 00:31:06,210
come from them not one good nothing

772
00:31:09,950 --> 00:31:07,649
absolutely nothing they could have the

773
00:31:11,630 --> 00:31:09,960
cure for cancer they could have the cure

774
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:11,640
for many diseases we have received

775
00:31:16,100 --> 00:31:14,490
nothing they could wipe out all the

776
00:31:18,409 --> 00:31:16,110
nuclear weapons or nullify them they

777
00:31:20,380 --> 00:31:18,419
haven't done it it's like a game of cat

778
00:31:23,180 --> 00:31:20,390
and mouse and they are rather like

779
00:31:25,070 --> 00:31:23,190
shadows they seem to hide in the shadows

780
00:31:26,990 --> 00:31:25,080
they don't want to be seen and yet they

781
00:31:29,389 --> 00:31:27,000
do it's like when they put you under

782
00:31:32,210 --> 00:31:29,399
like me for example evident they can't

783
00:31:33,830 --> 00:31:32,220
successfully and aney Theo ties us I

784
00:31:36,019 --> 00:31:33,840
mean I find that very strange for an

785
00:31:38,299 --> 00:31:36,029
advanced place that they can't entirely

786
00:31:40,190 --> 00:31:38,309
do it because sometimes we always wake

787
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:40,200
up is as if we're meant to wake up to

788
00:31:45,110 --> 00:31:42,210
see snippets of them I don't know what

789
00:31:47,269 --> 00:31:45,120
is one is like a big nasty game but um

790
00:31:48,380 --> 00:31:47,279
you know that but that's my views on it

791
00:31:49,850 --> 00:31:48,390
you know about this

792
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:49,860
about you know when I was reading about

793
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:52,770
a certain that that adapt abductee

794
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:56,250
sorry that was taken by them and he was

795
00:31:59,240 --> 00:31:57,810
ripped off to planets and they were all

796
00:32:01,580 --> 00:31:59,250
concerned I thought after one I thought

797
00:32:03,470 --> 00:32:01,590
no this is something wrong perhaps it

798
00:32:05,870 --> 00:32:03,480
did happen to him but it's an illusion

799
00:32:08,870 --> 00:32:05,880
they're making giving him this this

800
00:32:11,300 --> 00:32:08,880
illusion of care justice because we now

801
00:32:13,130 --> 00:32:11,310
know that the aliens are able to change

802
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:13,140
their faces I mean first they're goblins

803
00:32:17,690 --> 00:32:16,170
and fairies then they made Nordics you

804
00:32:19,850 --> 00:32:17,700
know and then we have the greys what's

805
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:19,860
it to be next year what's the next thing

806
00:32:27,020 --> 00:32:22,650
okay fifty I presume you'll run writing

807
00:32:29,330 --> 00:32:27,030
there yeah they can they can bring dead

808
00:32:31,190 --> 00:32:29,340
relatives aboard ships you read at these

809
00:32:33,710 --> 00:32:31,200
where they bring dead people aboard to

810
00:32:40,610 --> 00:32:33,720
see the adapt a just to make him a bit

811
00:32:42,410 --> 00:32:40,620
calmer I don't think that we may not be

812
00:32:44,420 --> 00:32:42,420
I've said before we may not be talking

813
00:32:46,430 --> 00:32:44,430
about if your terrestrial here we could

814
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:46,440
we talked about interdimensional beings

815
00:32:51,770 --> 00:32:50,010
of some sort is a very good point and I

816
00:32:53,660 --> 00:32:51,780
met you know David it's funny isn't it

817
00:32:55,700 --> 00:32:53,670
the more I look into this subject the

818
00:32:57,650 --> 00:32:55,710
more I'm inclined to believe you're

819
00:33:00,170 --> 00:32:57,660
absolutely right that they are not from

820
00:33:02,930 --> 00:33:00,180
outer space rather they are from inner

821
00:33:05,990 --> 00:33:02,940
space a bit a dimension interdimensional

822
00:33:07,910 --> 00:33:06,000
yes and I don't think we call them

823
00:33:10,490 --> 00:33:07,920
aliens we have we have to we have to

824
00:33:12,620 --> 00:33:10,500
enable things categorize things with

825
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:12,630
names that's understandable absolutely

826
00:33:16,130 --> 00:33:14,730
we need to categorizes I don't think

827
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:16,140
they're aliens I think that's something

828
00:33:20,060 --> 00:33:18,090
else of course I do believe aliens are

829
00:33:22,010 --> 00:33:20,070
out there yeah we would be stupid to

830
00:33:23,900 --> 00:33:22,020
think we're the only ones but yes it

831
00:33:26,210 --> 00:33:23,910
doesn't all doesn't mean all these

832
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:26,220
occurrences that we get Oh from

833
00:33:31,550 --> 00:33:28,650
extraterrestrial races I could well be

834
00:33:34,580 --> 00:33:31,560
you know it's a dimensional most of them

835
00:33:35,870 --> 00:33:34,590
anyway I absolutely absolutely agree

836
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:35,880
with you I could absolutely believe in

837
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:37,890
life on other planets of course I mean

838
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:40,410
you know you know it this is this

839
00:33:44,690 --> 00:33:43,170
absolutely I believe there are but what

840
00:33:46,010 --> 00:33:44,700
wave deep me with that moment is some

841
00:33:48,050 --> 00:33:46,020
Menace that even the military can't

842
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:48,060
control you know they seem to whip whip

843
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:49,530
out into the skies and then disappear

844
00:33:54,770 --> 00:33:51,930
again and elude them yeah you know and I

845
00:33:57,980 --> 00:33:54,780
do believe the Roswell ship going to the

846
00:34:00,020 --> 00:33:57,990
the most famous case of of them all I

847
00:34:02,180 --> 00:34:00,030
actually do believe something alien

848
00:34:04,940 --> 00:34:02,190
crash there and I do believe

849
00:34:07,130 --> 00:34:04,950
that they captured hardware or physical

850
00:34:08,780 --> 00:34:07,140
I thought I do to agree with you yeah

851
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:08,790
along with bodies is what I believe

852
00:34:13,100 --> 00:34:10,890
absolutely believed there within that

853
00:34:15,860 --> 00:34:13,110
because there's no smoke without fire

854
00:34:17,930 --> 00:34:15,870
and you know they actually reported and

855
00:34:19,340 --> 00:34:17,940
actually said that they've kept they've

856
00:34:21,740 --> 00:34:19,350
tried to put the thumb on it and stop

857
00:34:23,390 --> 00:34:21,750
them and retract it which when it was

858
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:23,400
all out of the babe already you know I

859
00:34:28,610 --> 00:34:25,490
mean obviously that was a military

860
00:34:30,290 --> 00:34:28,620
nuclear not so much nuclear but a sonic

861
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:30,300
base at that time they wouldn't be

862
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:33,090
releasing a story like that stupidity

863
00:34:43,250 --> 00:34:37,530
would they're you know this back in the

864
00:34:45,590 --> 00:34:43,260
bag against the pieces they have

865
00:34:47,390 --> 00:34:45,600
hundreds of people there to clean up a

866
00:34:49,430 --> 00:34:47,400
molecule that children can find lying

867
00:34:51,500 --> 00:34:49,440
around no I don't think so I mean they

868
00:34:53,150 --> 00:34:51,510
were they were with the people living in

869
00:34:54,830 --> 00:34:53,160
an area we're quite used to seeing those

870
00:34:55,250 --> 00:34:54,840
balloons anyway so they knew what they

871
00:34:57,350 --> 00:34:55,260
look like

872
00:35:00,110 --> 00:34:57,360
especially man Mac Brazel who found that

873
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:00,120
one on his ranch he knew what they look

874
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:02,490
like because it found them before but he

875
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:03,810
says this was nothing like he'd seen

876
00:35:08,210 --> 00:35:06,570
before that's right I mean you made you

877
00:35:10,490 --> 00:35:08,220
raised an interesting point David with

878
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:10,500
the this fear we saw you said could they

879
00:35:14,780 --> 00:35:12,330
be coming from these ships that's a very

880
00:35:17,150 --> 00:35:14,790
good point because I did think about the

881
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:17,160
Foo Fighters mmm I mean second world war

882
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:19,490
they were heavily documented by pilots

883
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:21,890
tailing the planes or swishing around

884
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:24,210
observing the war there again they

885
00:35:28,460 --> 00:35:25,650
didn't intervene with the war they just

886
00:35:30,110 --> 00:35:28,470
watched okay so this thing could be like

887
00:35:32,060 --> 00:35:30,120
one of those things it's just not moving

888
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:32,070
as fast as they were you know it's not

889
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:34,170
eliminated unless you made a book of the

890
00:35:39,470 --> 00:35:36,330
moment about a lot of food fighters and

891
00:35:41,030 --> 00:35:39,480
actually UFOs in war time it's actually

892
00:35:42,860 --> 00:35:41,040
quite very interesting and there's a lot

893
00:35:45,170 --> 00:35:42,870
more reports that I wasn't even aware of

894
00:35:47,570 --> 00:35:45,180
it seems to be quite a commonplace thing

895
00:35:48,980 --> 00:35:47,580
with a lot when during wartime and these

896
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:48,990
think the same flying around more than

897
00:35:56,090 --> 00:35:52,890
you were actually reported yeah in other

898
00:35:58,670 --> 00:35:56,100
books that I've seen you know yes that's

899
00:36:01,130 --> 00:35:58,680
right I mean as I said they've done

900
00:36:03,020 --> 00:36:01,140
nothing to help now you get some people

901
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:03,030
who write that it is against their law

902
00:36:06,260 --> 00:36:04,770
to intervene you know they hate these

903
00:36:08,450 --> 00:36:06,270
people seem to know their rules and

904
00:36:11,390 --> 00:36:08,460
regulations it's against their but if

905
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:11,400
there's a nuclear blast and intervene

906
00:36:15,020 --> 00:36:12,650
but they didn't they didn't with the

907
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:15,030
atomic bomb testing make they could have

908
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:16,050
stopped it they didn't

909
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:17,970
there was one incident I know they did

910
00:36:23,450 --> 00:36:21,330
they did there was a rocket that took

911
00:36:25,250 --> 00:36:23,460
off and one of them was sped round it

912
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:25,260
quickly fired a bolt of light and then

913
00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:27,330
destroyed it I don't know what that's

914
00:36:31,910 --> 00:36:30,000
all about that probably is another case

915
00:36:34,490 --> 00:36:31,920
of you know one let's just show our

916
00:36:36,410 --> 00:36:34,500
concern but certainly from my point of

917
00:36:38,270 --> 00:36:36,420
view I'm rather confused at the fact as

918
00:36:40,250 --> 00:36:38,280
why they've done absolutely nothing I

919
00:36:42,230 --> 00:36:40,260
mean I know they can't land on the lawns

920
00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:42,240
of the white as I know they can't arrive

921
00:36:47,060 --> 00:36:44,250
in their shirts because let's be honest

922
00:36:50,890 --> 00:36:47,070
there will be absolute Aniki I mean you

923
00:36:53,030 --> 00:36:50,900
know you just have to look at our own

924
00:36:54,890 --> 00:36:53,040
government and people what we do when we

925
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:54,900
just saw it cost a simple vote yeah

926
00:36:58,580 --> 00:36:55,770
absolutely

927
00:37:00,290 --> 00:36:58,590
yeah the absolute horror and absolute

928
00:37:02,300 --> 00:37:00,300
lies we have to go through with that so

929
00:37:04,580 --> 00:37:02,310
my god what would happen if they arrived

930
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:04,590
and I don't think the ones that visiting

931
00:37:09,230 --> 00:37:06,450
is at present would I think they're much

932
00:37:10,460 --> 00:37:09,240
darker I think these greys and not all

933
00:37:12,350 --> 00:37:10,470
what their pity I mean there might be

934
00:37:15,350 --> 00:37:12,360
factions which are good you get the good

935
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:15,360
the bad and the ugly I mean we spoke to

936
00:37:21,140 --> 00:37:18,930
the wonderful Kathleen Mardan who is the

937
00:37:23,060 --> 00:37:21,150
niece of betty Ambati Betty and Barney

938
00:37:25,430 --> 00:37:23,070
Hill misses the niece and she's

939
00:37:27,020 --> 00:37:25,440
absolutely smashing and she she came up

940
00:37:29,060 --> 00:37:27,030
with a very interesting point especially

941
00:37:30,470 --> 00:37:29,070
about the Roswell ship that it could be

942
00:37:33,140 --> 00:37:30,480
possible is it possible that they are

943
00:37:35,780 --> 00:37:33,150
the pilots are engineered there they're

944
00:37:38,030 --> 00:37:35,790
biologically made to suit that

945
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:38,040
environment that ends the ship you know

946
00:37:44,990 --> 00:37:40,050
that was a very interesting interesting

947
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:45,000
hypothesis yes and if so if you're so

948
00:37:50,090 --> 00:37:46,890
advanced you could just sit back and

949
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:50,100
build these clone people and send them

950
00:37:52,910 --> 00:37:51,570
out and then act as their eyes and their

951
00:37:55,070 --> 00:37:52,920
ears and have a look round they sniff

952
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:55,080
around you know we have to consider many

953
00:37:59,990 --> 00:37:57,330
different things I mean I have I had I'm

954
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:00,000
good at this I make you laugh I had one

955
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:01,530
chap as I said I won't mention names

956
00:38:06,140 --> 00:38:02,970
it's not fair and I wouldn't do it

957
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:06,150
anyway but it's check he seemed to have

958
00:38:12,650 --> 00:38:09,330
the entire alien agenda all implied see

959
00:38:15,290 --> 00:38:12,660
he was basically telling me he wrote to

960
00:38:17,930 --> 00:38:15,300
me about that I had got my Theory's

961
00:38:20,420 --> 00:38:17,940
wrong about them that they were and he

962
00:38:22,070 --> 00:38:20,430
gave this list this list it was a oh my

963
00:38:24,020 --> 00:38:22,080
god it was never-ending about what they

964
00:38:26,330 --> 00:38:24,030
plan to do and I thought where'd you get

965
00:38:28,580 --> 00:38:26,340
this from and he told me it was from as

966
00:38:29,810 --> 00:38:28,590
some general high class general well of

967
00:38:32,270 --> 00:38:29,820
course they can say anything

968
00:38:34,820 --> 00:38:32,280
because as soon as the general denounces

969
00:38:37,190 --> 00:38:34,830
it it becomes a conspiracy you is lost

970
00:38:39,050 --> 00:38:37,200
in this web of you know no one can prove

971
00:38:41,150 --> 00:38:39,060
it so I thought no this is absolute

972
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:41,160
rubbish with the aliens absolutely

973
00:38:44,570 --> 00:38:42,930
categorically would not state their

974
00:38:46,010 --> 00:38:44,580
agenda to us and if they did it would be

975
00:38:47,450 --> 00:38:46,020
an absolute fabrication they would lead

976
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:47,460
us off the trail they're not gonna tell

977
00:38:52,340 --> 00:38:49,530
us what they're up to tell us what they

978
00:38:54,830 --> 00:38:52,350
do and this is another point I'd like to

979
00:38:56,510 --> 00:38:54,840
raise about the hybridization program I

980
00:38:59,170 --> 00:38:56,520
read so much about

981
00:39:02,720 --> 00:38:59,180
now I'm not criticizing it I don't know

982
00:39:03,860 --> 00:39:02,730
I'm not educated in it entirely I mean

983
00:39:05,570 --> 00:39:03,870
perhaps there are some of them as

984
00:39:07,730 --> 00:39:05,580
scientists experimenting with people as

985
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:07,740
a sweetwood with lab rats but the point

986
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:09,570
i can't understand is some of them going

987
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:12,810
on about the graves making a new race

988
00:39:17,750 --> 00:39:15,690
for their own empire or their own

989
00:39:19,730 --> 00:39:17,760
kingdom or whatever and I thought that's

990
00:39:21,710 --> 00:39:19,740
absolutely rubbish what's the point in

991
00:39:23,690 --> 00:39:21,720
that there's no point in it doesn't make

992
00:39:26,570 --> 00:39:23,700
any logical sense they wouldn't move

993
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:26,580
away from what they are is like us when

994
00:39:32,420 --> 00:39:29,490
we're if we're dying out and we develop

995
00:39:35,050 --> 00:39:32,430
a new breed of people let's say I won't

996
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:35,060
say they're cavemen but they're you

997
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:37,770
Victorian in in nature Victorian they

998
00:39:41,930 --> 00:39:40,050
say we're we're of the 25th century and

999
00:39:43,940 --> 00:39:41,940
they're Victorian people we'll be

1000
00:39:46,730 --> 00:39:43,950
putting our genes into them what's the

1001
00:39:49,250 --> 00:39:46,740
point yeah they're never going to be the

1002
00:39:50,900 --> 00:39:49,260
original the hosts they're not going to

1003
00:39:53,180 --> 00:39:50,910
be that they're just going to be

1004
00:39:54,770 --> 00:39:53,190
completely a separate species doing

1005
00:39:56,090 --> 00:39:54,780
their own things that didn't make sense

1006
00:39:57,890 --> 00:39:56,100
to me there's something more sinister

1007
00:40:00,230 --> 00:39:57,900
behind I think they would agree more I

1008
00:40:02,420 --> 00:40:00,240
get your point there yeah you know I

1009
00:40:05,330 --> 00:40:02,430
just I don't understand that at all you

1010
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:05,340
know and then we move on to the the

1011
00:40:12,380 --> 00:40:08,010
triangular ships now I have seen only

1012
00:40:15,590 --> 00:40:12,390
one once and it's ironic because and

1013
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:15,600
although I'm friends with a wonderful

1014
00:40:30,950 --> 00:40:28,410
author Andrew Johnson I'm trying to get

1015
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:30,960
him on the show soon actually yeah he's

1016
00:40:36,530 --> 00:40:34,770
a lovely very well educated he's like

1017
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:36,540
his self he doesn't have any nonsense is

1018
00:40:42,020 --> 00:40:40,170
he he wants the truth out there and he

1019
00:40:44,339 --> 00:40:42,030
was showing me these images of these

1020
00:40:47,430 --> 00:40:44,349
triangular ships and they were very

1021
00:40:50,370 --> 00:40:47,440
sharply cornered and he was basically

1022
00:40:52,049 --> 00:40:50,380
their military built and I said well no

1023
00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:52,059
perhaps not all of them only he agreed

1024
00:40:58,079 --> 00:40:54,640
on that point and well my god I was to

1025
00:41:00,210 --> 00:40:58,089
see one myself I've I have catalogs I

1026
00:41:01,979 --> 00:41:00,220
think I have cat no I didn't kind of

1027
00:41:03,690 --> 00:41:01,989
catalog that one because I've seen so

1028
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:03,700
many of them every two or three years

1029
00:41:08,609 --> 00:41:05,170
this is what I'm putting infinite

1030
00:41:12,749 --> 00:41:08,619
Mantle's book every account what I've

1031
00:41:14,579 --> 00:41:12,759
seen and and what I see David is not

1032
00:41:16,319 --> 00:41:14,589
just pinpricks of light they are full

1033
00:41:18,660 --> 00:41:16,329
scale but if I see them there happens to

1034
00:41:20,729 --> 00:41:18,670
be full scale this try a ship I saw it

1035
00:41:23,549 --> 00:41:20,739
was an August I do remember it was

1036
00:41:25,079 --> 00:41:23,559
August I don't know it was the 11th of

1037
00:41:28,739 --> 00:41:25,089
August I may have actually written it

1038
00:41:30,210 --> 00:41:28,749
down I can't remember but it was 11th or

1039
00:41:34,349 --> 00:41:30,220
12th and the Sun was seven o'clock in

1040
00:41:37,589 --> 00:41:34,359
the afternoon the Sun was the direction

1041
00:41:39,870 --> 00:41:37,599
of house here it's quite bright and it

1042
00:41:43,170 --> 00:41:39,880
just this huge thing casually passed

1043
00:41:44,849 --> 00:41:43,180
overhead now it was quite low I mean it

1044
00:41:47,219 --> 00:41:44,859
was massive I could see even the the

1045
00:41:49,739 --> 00:41:47,229
corners and the detail on the side of it

1046
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:49,749
and it was a triangle it was a black

1047
00:41:55,709 --> 00:41:52,690
triangle it was if the corners weren't

1048
00:41:59,749 --> 00:41:55,719
sharp though they were rounded extremely

1049
00:42:02,339 --> 00:41:59,759
beautifully rounded and the the actual

1050
00:42:04,979 --> 00:42:02,349
mass of it was thick set I mean it

1051
00:42:06,959 --> 00:42:04,989
wasn't thin it was really fix it I

1052
00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:06,969
imagine you could get 15 decks on it I

1053
00:42:12,660 --> 00:42:09,609
mean it was gigantic and it was it was

1054
00:42:17,099 --> 00:42:12,670
so big and it just gracefully passed

1055
00:42:18,479 --> 00:42:17,109
above the house it moved a forward and I

1056
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:18,489
can see any rockets there were no

1057
00:42:21,870 --> 00:42:20,410
engines there was no sound there was

1058
00:42:22,529 --> 00:42:21,880
nothing it wasn't a drone it was

1059
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:22,539
gigantic

1060
00:42:28,019 --> 00:42:25,450
it looked like the the the silver orb

1061
00:42:29,940 --> 00:42:28,029
that we saw the the unfair the

1062
00:42:32,219 --> 00:42:29,950
electronica I call it it looks heavy

1063
00:42:34,589 --> 00:42:32,229
really heavy it was made of cast iron

1064
00:42:36,690 --> 00:42:34,599
black cast iron or something it's look

1065
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:36,700
really heavy and but it was just flying

1066
00:42:43,229 --> 00:42:41,170
effortless silly into the distance and

1067
00:42:45,089 --> 00:42:43,239
as I was watching it now I had to I had

1068
00:42:47,009 --> 00:42:45,099
a choice now I could have grabbed my

1069
00:42:49,799 --> 00:42:47,019
mobile phone I wished I had now wished

1070
00:42:52,049 --> 00:42:49,809
I've filmed but I was frightened of

1071
00:42:53,819 --> 00:42:52,059
losing it and as I was watching it I

1072
00:42:55,109 --> 00:42:53,829
noticed that where the Sun was fretting

1073
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:55,119
on the side it had these lovely grooves

1074
00:42:59,980 --> 00:42:57,410
along the side of it

1075
00:43:01,570 --> 00:42:59,990
Shing Grove but and the belly of it

1076
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:01,580
underneath the belly I can see the belly

1077
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:03,290
there were no girders all right it had

1078
00:43:07,570 --> 00:43:05,930
no lights on it nothing was on the thing

1079
00:43:09,610 --> 00:43:07,580
it was just all black and I suppose

1080
00:43:11,740 --> 00:43:09,620
that's attributed to it being daylight I

1081
00:43:13,900 --> 00:43:11,750
suppose these people who report them who

1082
00:43:15,340 --> 00:43:13,910
I do believe that they report them with

1083
00:43:17,050 --> 00:43:15,350
this mainly at night isn't it but they

1084
00:43:18,970 --> 00:43:17,060
see them nicely obviously I hate them

1085
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:18,980
you know these these things on them but

1086
00:43:23,890 --> 00:43:20,570
no it was it was quick it was quite

1087
00:43:26,170 --> 00:43:23,900
although it was extremely bizarre it was

1088
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:26,180
quite there was a certain beauty about

1089
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:28,130
it I remembered thinking at the time as

1090
00:43:33,010 --> 00:43:30,650
I was watching it how the hell can it

1091
00:43:35,890 --> 00:43:33,020
just hang there how can it just hang

1092
00:43:39,460 --> 00:43:35,900
there it was me David it was gigantic

1093
00:43:42,490 --> 00:43:39,470
to gauge the actual size it was probably

1094
00:43:44,170 --> 00:43:42,500
the size of two football field so it

1095
00:43:47,860 --> 00:43:44,180
sounds very much like the Phoenix one

1096
00:43:49,690 --> 00:43:47,870
doesn't its own yeah and I never saw

1097
00:43:52,570 --> 00:43:49,700
again it was just and I kept thinking

1098
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:52,580
why what why isn't anyone I can't they

1099
00:43:56,110 --> 00:43:54,410
see it why can't I see it

1100
00:43:57,430 --> 00:43:56,120
when these things happen and I do

1101
00:43:59,650 --> 00:43:57,440
believe they happen to a lot of people

1102
00:44:01,750 --> 00:43:59,660
when these things happen I think the

1103
00:44:02,650 --> 00:44:01,760
wonderful British UFO just saw it to

1104
00:44:04,540 --> 00:44:02,660
read all her books

1105
00:44:07,150 --> 00:44:04,550
Jenny Randall's she coined the phrase

1106
00:44:10,390 --> 00:44:07,160
the Oz factor this kicks in it's like

1107
00:44:12,940 --> 00:44:10,400
his it's it's it's unreal but it's real

1108
00:44:16,450 --> 00:44:12,950
you know there's one thing I did notice

1109
00:44:19,570 --> 00:44:16,460
one interesting detail I did notice when

1110
00:44:21,430 --> 00:44:19,580
this craft passed out of the head and it

1111
00:44:23,230 --> 00:44:21,440
didn't look military to me David that

1112
00:44:26,710 --> 00:44:23,240
look like it was perhaps hundreds of

1113
00:44:30,010 --> 00:44:26,720
years ahead of technology I'm not

1114
00:44:31,870 --> 00:44:30,020
discrediting the incredible progress and

1115
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:31,880
military of made I mean there's no doubt

1116
00:44:36,850 --> 00:44:34,210
that they have developed some kind of

1117
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:36,860
craft that can perhaps navigate and you

1118
00:44:41,590 --> 00:44:39,050
bother to you not I'm not knocking them

1119
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:41,600
not on this scale not beside and even if

1120
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:43,850
they had there is a valid point they

1121
00:44:48,450 --> 00:44:45,530
would not be broadcast themselves across

1122
00:44:50,710 --> 00:44:48,460
they would be flying them no maybe

1123
00:44:53,860 --> 00:44:50,720
thousands of people would be seeing them

1124
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:53,870
like that yeah do it it's not that would

1125
00:44:56,590 --> 00:44:55,850
not be their tactic they're too smart

1126
00:45:01,030 --> 00:44:56,600
for that

1127
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:01,040
but one interesting detail I did note is

1128
00:45:04,450 --> 00:45:02,810
that we have a lot of birds around where

1129
00:45:05,980 --> 00:45:04,460
we are and August yeah they're

1130
00:45:08,500 --> 00:45:05,990
everywhere the flying around when it

1131
00:45:10,930 --> 00:45:08,510
paths there was not one bird not one

1132
00:45:13,359 --> 00:45:10,940
bird anywhere

1133
00:45:16,150 --> 00:45:13,369
I was not strange he's joined you know

1134
00:45:18,099 --> 00:45:16,160
bird I didn't feel any vibration from it

1135
00:45:21,130 --> 00:45:18,109
I didn't feel anything from the thing it

1136
00:45:23,980 --> 00:45:21,140
just seemed to casually move and it was

1137
00:45:26,620 --> 00:45:23,990
it was like a shiny black tar thick said

1138
00:45:28,510 --> 00:45:26,630
the corners were rounded I was a

1139
00:45:30,490 --> 00:45:28,520
complete about my goodness when you look

1140
00:45:31,990 --> 00:45:30,500
at that and I did have a damn good look

1141
00:45:34,300 --> 00:45:32,000
at it as I said I had the choice of

1142
00:45:36,339 --> 00:45:34,310
getting my phone but I was frightened to

1143
00:45:38,260 --> 00:45:36,349
move to lose detail and people say

1144
00:45:39,819 --> 00:45:38,270
that's a cop-out it wasn't I wish now I

1145
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:39,829
had God I wished I had because it was

1146
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:41,210
there for a bit longer than I thought

1147
00:45:44,890 --> 00:45:43,130
but you don't know if it's gonna zip off

1148
00:45:46,809 --> 00:45:44,900
its gonna disappear you've got no idea

1149
00:45:49,180 --> 00:45:46,819
but I wanted to see the thing for what

1150
00:45:52,180 --> 00:45:49,190
it really was and that is alien

1151
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:52,190
technology or otherworldly well you're

1152
00:45:55,510 --> 00:45:53,930
not yes but this made those same

1153
00:45:57,819 --> 00:45:55,520
descriptions that's what interests me

1154
00:45:59,890 --> 00:45:57,829
I've heard that type of description from

1155
00:46:02,230 --> 00:45:59,900
several other people just a couple of

1156
00:46:04,990 --> 00:46:02,240
friends of mine also

1157
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:05,000
I think Darren Cooper had a very similar

1158
00:46:12,339 --> 00:46:09,410
experience to what you're describing you

1159
00:46:14,140 --> 00:46:12,349
know that's and I have seen a lot more

1160
00:46:16,329 --> 00:46:14,150
is it I would say well every two or

1161
00:46:17,950 --> 00:46:16,339
three years now the last ones we saw

1162
00:46:19,690 --> 00:46:17,960
were three of them I think they put them

1163
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:19,700
on YouTube someone had unloaded them

1164
00:46:23,319 --> 00:46:20,930
someone else captured them

1165
00:46:24,700 --> 00:46:23,329
thank God and they've filmed them and

1166
00:46:28,750 --> 00:46:24,710
they've analyzed them and they're not

1167
00:46:30,190 --> 00:46:28,760
aircrafts at all but that was 2016 so

1168
00:46:32,470 --> 00:46:30,200
it's every two or three years now so

1169
00:46:34,569 --> 00:46:32,480
I've seen nothing yet and as I said with

1170
00:46:36,460 --> 00:46:34,579
the doctors I've as I said I've never

1171
00:46:38,470 --> 00:46:36,470
seen them again that was very very

1172
00:46:41,740 --> 00:46:38,480
bizarre but I would be happy to be

1173
00:46:43,390 --> 00:46:41,750
regressed to see if they could take me

1174
00:46:46,990 --> 00:46:43,400
back to the time it's funny isn't it

1175
00:46:49,359 --> 00:46:47,000
because I was request once by a medium

1176
00:46:52,690 --> 00:46:49,369
after all this I mean our beloved

1177
00:46:54,670 --> 00:46:52,700
grandmother she passed away she passed

1178
00:46:56,829 --> 00:46:54,680
away and I went to see medium even even

1179
00:46:58,120 --> 00:46:56,839
after all that I did announce the

1180
00:46:59,920 --> 00:46:58,130
mediums thinking would because Philip

1181
00:47:02,790 --> 00:46:59,930
came back from singer and I was laughing

1182
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:02,800
said hole you know I was ignorant

1183
00:47:08,950 --> 00:47:05,930
I kept saying are you know crystal ball

1184
00:47:10,150 --> 00:47:08,960
of gypsy woman you know pop cause my car

1185
00:47:11,950 --> 00:47:10,160
was silver and all that I said what a

1186
00:47:14,710 --> 00:47:11,960
load of rubbish when he came back from

1187
00:47:16,750 --> 00:47:14,720
her the first thing I noticed the first

1188
00:47:19,210 --> 00:47:16,760
thing it was down strong he stank of

1189
00:47:21,130 --> 00:47:19,220
youth Jew and I said to him what's the

1190
00:47:21,609 --> 00:47:21,140
medium we're never to any parfum no no

1191
00:47:23,530 --> 00:47:21,619
she doesn't

1192
00:47:24,819 --> 00:47:23,540
she wasn't grandpa from what my grandma

1193
00:47:27,009 --> 00:47:24,829
always

1194
00:47:29,620 --> 00:47:27,019
war youth June I said all this juice

1195
00:47:31,150 --> 00:47:29,630
wanted it she loved it so I made an

1196
00:47:33,969 --> 00:47:31,160
appointment to see her and it developed

1197
00:47:37,569 --> 00:47:33,979
a friendship afterwards especially Tim

1198
00:47:39,549 --> 00:47:37,579
yeah yeah are you at your night she

1199
00:47:44,469 --> 00:47:39,559
cooked a ball yourself are you all do

1200
00:47:47,049 --> 00:47:44,479
you know Philippe he is isn't he yeah

1201
00:47:49,839 --> 00:47:47,059
yeah no I'm afraid I'm not I make no

1202
00:47:51,670 --> 00:47:49,849
claim to that when s this medium she was

1203
00:47:53,949 --> 00:47:51,680
in David she was incredible her name was

1204
00:47:56,019 --> 00:47:53,959
Pearl she was incredible very young very

1205
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:56,029
transient woman she was incredible she

1206
00:47:57,940 --> 00:47:57,170
didn't even look at me I gave a false

1207
00:47:59,739 --> 00:47:57,950
name by the way

1208
00:48:01,239 --> 00:47:59,749
and she cheated bother I didn't faze her

1209
00:48:02,979 --> 00:48:01,249
she just looked at the woman it all came

1210
00:48:05,229 --> 00:48:02,989
through actually what she came through

1211
00:48:07,690 --> 00:48:05,239
with I was gobsmacked it wasn't this

1212
00:48:11,199 --> 00:48:07,700
wishy-washy monsters they put on TV like

1213
00:48:14,019 --> 00:48:11,209
his own unique body there no this was

1214
00:48:15,459 --> 00:48:14,029
accurate detailed to the point where a

1215
00:48:18,099 --> 00:48:15,469
family member drowned we had no

1216
00:48:20,140 --> 00:48:18,109
knowledge of it and yet our mother knew

1217
00:48:21,759 --> 00:48:20,150
who it was it was yes it was the person

1218
00:48:22,630 --> 00:48:21,769
she said we had no so she's not even

1219
00:48:23,559 --> 00:48:22,640
mine we didn't either

1220
00:48:25,569 --> 00:48:23,569
because he'd be not on with the

1221
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:25,579
knowledge how could she know she she's

1222
00:48:28,959 --> 00:48:27,650
she did past life regression afterwards

1223
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:28,969
with me and that's the only time I was

1224
00:48:33,099 --> 00:48:30,650
regret afterwards after this meeting her

1225
00:48:35,109 --> 00:48:33,109
after I'd confirmed that it yeah you

1226
00:48:36,670 --> 00:48:35,119
know she's absolutely spot on she came

1227
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:36,680
around and did passive aggression when I

1228
00:48:41,620 --> 00:48:39,410
saw for past lives but I didn't see I

1229
00:48:43,509 --> 00:48:41,630
didn't see what she because she said

1230
00:48:49,170 --> 00:48:43,519
Phillip and I were once sisters on

1231
00:48:55,809 --> 00:48:51,430
American friends out there don't know

1232
00:49:06,910 --> 00:48:55,819
who they are but two gentlemen dressed

1233
00:49:09,069 --> 00:49:06,920
up as ladies and they it was two old

1234
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:09,079
ladies you know they portrayed them for

1235
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:09,890
American friends

1236
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:11,930
they betrayed them as these comical to

1237
00:49:18,910 --> 00:49:14,890
village life

1238
00:49:19,839 --> 00:49:18,920
cake-eating eccentric ladies so very fun

1239
00:49:21,309 --> 00:49:19,849
I've got the cellar actually we've got

1240
00:49:23,170 --> 00:49:21,319
the we've got the box that over they

1241
00:49:24,999 --> 00:49:23,180
were very popular I think in the 70s

1242
00:49:36,459 --> 00:49:25,009
there were seven probably like the

1243
00:49:38,620 --> 00:49:36,469
Golden Girls that are new pretty they

1244
00:49:39,910 --> 00:49:38,630
are here amongst us they certainly are

1245
00:49:42,339 --> 00:49:39,920
I like that line that was from the

1246
00:49:44,890 --> 00:49:42,349
invaders they are here amongst us we

1247
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:44,900
what they are we don't know we can't say

1248
00:49:49,539 --> 00:49:47,450
and I think it's wonderful attributed to

1249
00:49:52,299 --> 00:49:49,549
all of our UFO researchers who are

1250
00:49:54,249 --> 00:49:52,309
absolutely wonderful people so I liken

1251
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:54,259
it to a jigsaw puzzle they're trying to

1252
00:49:58,299 --> 00:49:56,210
put pieces together to form a coherent

1253
00:49:59,740 --> 00:49:58,309
picture almost the most of them are I'm

1254
00:50:02,200 --> 00:49:59,750
afraid that there's a few that go a

1255
00:50:04,660 --> 00:50:02,210
little bit overboard and try to start

1256
00:50:09,970 --> 00:50:04,670
exaggerating things which being kind of

1257
00:50:12,299 --> 00:50:09,980
throws all of their previous work that's

1258
00:50:15,730 --> 00:50:12,309
the danger of becoming started no yes

1259
00:50:19,660 --> 00:50:15,740
like I've seen some I won't give names

1260
00:50:22,749 --> 00:50:19,670
some talk one particular woman presenter

1261
00:50:26,230 --> 00:50:22,759
who I think I'm not going to be unkind

1262
00:50:29,529 --> 00:50:26,240
here but I think she's um what's the

1263
00:50:32,890 --> 00:50:29,539
word should I use in a social media

1264
00:50:33,549 --> 00:50:32,900
climber yeah and I dunno who you're

1265
00:50:36,099 --> 00:50:33,559
talking about

1266
00:50:37,630 --> 00:50:36,109
yeah you have to be careful because when

1267
00:50:40,089 --> 00:50:37,640
I've noticed when people come up with

1268
00:50:41,740 --> 00:50:40,099
new theories good folk on like on your

1269
00:50:43,779 --> 00:50:41,750
radio stations or other people on other

1270
00:50:48,940 --> 00:50:43,789
radio stations she seems to suck up the

1271
00:50:51,519 --> 00:50:48,950
information like a Spanish exactly yeah

1272
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:51,529
and so she has the answers to everything

1273
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:54,650
basically it sounds like yes I think and

1274
00:50:58,900 --> 00:50:57,410
I'm watching this woman on TV and

1275
00:51:00,880 --> 00:50:58,910
YouTube and that I think she's got a

1276
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:00,890
hell of a lot of them wrong this is the

1277
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:02,650
ironic thing about it especially about

1278
00:51:11,650 --> 00:51:08,930
the the crop circles which and which is

1279
00:51:13,990 --> 00:51:11,660
a shame because early research into well

1280
00:51:15,819 --> 00:51:14,000
to talk about it Ketel reasons and

1281
00:51:18,579 --> 00:51:15,829
everything like there was actually very

1282
00:51:20,529 --> 00:51:18,589
very good and it still stands up but

1283
00:51:22,210 --> 00:51:20,539
unfortunately it's just gone too far

1284
00:51:24,999 --> 00:51:22,220
when you get the answers to everything

1285
00:51:29,230 --> 00:51:25,009
that's going on unfortunately this sort

1286
00:51:31,539 --> 00:51:29,240
of ruins everything else yes but as you

1287
00:51:34,240 --> 00:51:31,549
said no I'm not psychic like Phillip but

1288
00:51:37,359 --> 00:51:34,250
my intuition always kicks in it's like

1289
00:51:40,809 --> 00:51:37,369
about this woman yeah and the the the

1290
00:51:43,059 --> 00:51:40,819
getting back to the the psychic ability

1291
00:51:45,549 --> 00:51:43,069
no I couldn't raise the skin of a

1292
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:45,559
writing well as I think we've all got it

1293
00:51:50,140 --> 00:51:48,170
in us a lot we were saying before before

1294
00:51:52,420 --> 00:51:50,150
a lot we feel affirmed there I think

1295
00:51:54,700 --> 00:51:52,430
this don't develop it do we

1296
00:51:56,590 --> 00:51:54,710
you okay is this funny feeling about

1297
00:52:03,220 --> 00:51:56,600
someone or when you walk into a room you

1298
00:52:04,810 --> 00:52:03,230
feel in atmosphere bring you through I

1299
00:52:08,340 --> 00:52:04,820
think with my art I love drawing the

1300
00:52:10,810 --> 00:52:08,350
night fantastic some of your artwork

1301
00:52:12,490 --> 00:52:10,820
when I put this show this the show goes

1302
00:52:14,050 --> 00:52:12,500
out in a few weeks I'll actually put

1303
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:14,060
some of your artwork on the pet on the

1304
00:52:19,180 --> 00:52:16,690
paranormal dimensions page if it's okay

1305
00:52:21,970 --> 00:52:19,190
use whatever you want David that's fine

1306
00:52:23,470 --> 00:52:21,980
but um but and also with the writing but

1307
00:52:26,110 --> 00:52:23,480
I was like you said David yes you're

1308
00:52:28,150 --> 00:52:26,120
right all of us we all have this it's

1309
00:52:29,620 --> 00:52:28,160
whether we wish it to remain dormant or

1310
00:52:31,780 --> 00:52:29,630
not I think some people it's slightly

1311
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:31,790
works other people they work on images

1312
00:52:36,370 --> 00:52:34,010
brilliant brilliant to really develop

1313
00:52:41,170 --> 00:52:36,380
the skill is like the wonderful Franklin

1314
00:52:42,850 --> 00:52:41,180
it's his his his his he has an ability I

1315
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:42,860
mean when he did that when he broke all

1316
00:52:47,170 --> 00:52:45,530
those concrete slabs using not only the

1317
00:52:48,370 --> 00:52:47,180
power of his fist which cannot possibly

1318
00:52:51,430 --> 00:52:48,380
do it that's impossible

1319
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:51,440
but it's mind yeah does he find into it

1320
00:52:56,230 --> 00:52:53,810
that's why I was trying to I I asked him

1321
00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:56,240
the question about sir does he know this

1322
00:53:00,340 --> 00:52:58,010
going on in it with in his mind is it or

1323
00:53:01,750 --> 00:53:00,350
is it something that's I don't know does

1324
00:53:04,060 --> 00:53:01,760
he understand what it is that's

1325
00:53:05,380 --> 00:53:04,070
happening you know I mean he's been

1326
00:53:07,180 --> 00:53:05,390
linked in his book of records you know

1327
00:53:09,100 --> 00:53:07,190
it's got an accomplished gentleman and I

1328
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:09,110
absolutely love the guy I think and when

1329
00:53:13,390 --> 00:53:10,850
he talks he talks the truth and I was

1330
00:53:15,730 --> 00:53:13,400
fascinated about the reptilian he saw

1331
00:53:17,590 --> 00:53:15,740
the shapeshifter he saw her and if Frank

1332
00:53:18,910 --> 00:53:17,600
says he saw it he saw yeah oh he

1333
00:53:22,590 --> 00:53:18,920
wouldn't yeah you wouldn't lie enough

1334
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:22,600
right it's not that type of guy you know

1335
00:53:30,250 --> 00:53:27,770
but yes you know his his accounts I mean

1336
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:30,260
you know I'm just grateful that we have

1337
00:53:35,020 --> 00:53:32,690
people like yourself David and Frank and

1338
00:53:37,330 --> 00:53:35,030
we have all the others the good people

1339
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:37,340
on our side who are just trying to find

1340
00:53:40,780 --> 00:53:39,170
out what these things are and I don't

1341
00:53:43,570 --> 00:53:40,790
think we're going to get the answer

1342
00:53:45,970 --> 00:53:43,580
anytime soon I think this picture is not

1343
00:53:48,070 --> 00:53:45,980
even half built yet on this puzzle no I

1344
00:53:51,460 --> 00:53:48,080
think you're right I'll ever see in my

1345
00:53:54,010 --> 00:53:51,470
lifetime think I will in my lifetime

1346
00:53:56,740 --> 00:53:54,020
either it's it's but it is but one thing

1347
00:53:59,110 --> 00:53:56,750
week we have confirmed this ancient it

1348
00:54:02,470 --> 00:53:59,120
has been here for a long time it's able

1349
00:54:04,570 --> 00:54:02,480
to change its shape as Paul Sinclair I

1350
00:54:06,220 --> 00:54:04,580
mean the wonderful Paul Sinclair son of

1351
00:54:10,170 --> 00:54:06,230
a lot of research into it as well

1352
00:54:13,540 --> 00:54:10,180
in Benton where him and the wonderful

1353
00:54:19,060 --> 00:54:13,550
film producer christopher Turner salmon

1354
00:54:21,250 --> 00:54:19,070
yeah wonderful people and also Bob Brown

1355
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:21,260
yeah they be not investigating these

1356
00:54:26,260 --> 00:54:23,450
things and I mean Chris Turner did a

1357
00:54:28,569 --> 00:54:26,270
wonderful documentary on don't mention

1358
00:54:32,170 --> 00:54:28,579
the refugees oh goodie actually it's

1359
00:54:36,430 --> 00:54:32,180
very good and Elysium sorry elusive he

1360
00:54:39,609 --> 00:54:36,440
did one called elusive about the Bigfoot

1361
00:54:41,349 --> 00:54:39,619
and I think it's bringing a new when I

1362
00:54:42,849 --> 00:54:41,359
was knee bring it down the night yes

1363
00:54:45,310 --> 00:54:42,859
that there is something new coming out I

1364
00:54:47,890 --> 00:54:45,320
think this yeah I think he and Paul were

1365
00:54:49,810 --> 00:54:47,900
working on something I believe yeah I

1366
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:49,820
mean I love all that and I love I just

1367
00:54:54,609 --> 00:54:52,010
think it like you said David you have

1368
00:54:56,770 --> 00:54:54,619
the inner knowing about people you you

1369
00:54:59,079 --> 00:54:56,780
have that that feeling that you you're

1370
00:55:00,670 --> 00:54:59,089
drawn to that like you're drawn to we

1371
00:55:02,050 --> 00:55:00,680
were drawn to each other and I think

1372
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:02,060
that's beautiful you know it's like well

1373
00:55:05,650 --> 00:55:03,290
I've made mistakes

1374
00:55:07,810 --> 00:55:05,660
you know you yeah we've all know how

1375
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:07,820
trust broken of your points you know I

1376
00:55:11,589 --> 00:55:10,010
think I think the trouble is with if

1377
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:11,599
you're like me I'm a very trusting

1378
00:55:14,140 --> 00:55:12,050
person

1379
00:55:15,670 --> 00:55:14,150
I'll do trouble people a lot even if I

1380
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:15,680
might have a funny feeling about them

1381
00:55:22,660 --> 00:55:18,530
first but then yeah but once that trust

1382
00:55:26,230 --> 00:55:22,670
is broken you know well you know how I

1383
00:55:29,319 --> 00:55:26,240
feel about that yes yes I know what you

1384
00:55:31,750 --> 00:55:29,329
mean it's like it's just the way it is

1385
00:55:33,700 --> 00:55:31,760
isn't it but the doctors as I said

1386
00:55:34,900 --> 00:55:33,710
referring to them they weren't as I must

1387
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:34,910
make it quite clear they weren't

1388
00:55:42,609 --> 00:55:36,890
horrible to me they were very concerned

1389
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:42,619
but they were very very he the the three

1390
00:55:46,030 --> 00:55:43,970
ahead of me never spoke they were just

1391
00:55:46,990 --> 00:55:46,040
standing there at the three ahead of me

1392
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:47,000
they just stood there

1393
00:55:51,130 --> 00:55:48,890
the I couldn't see the visitors to

1394
00:55:52,809 --> 00:55:51,140
pepper he behind me I never saw him he

1395
00:55:55,900 --> 00:55:52,819
was the one in charge but he was

1396
00:55:58,059 --> 00:55:55,910
extremely polite his voice was polite as

1397
00:55:59,680 --> 00:55:58,069
I said I don't know if he communicated

1398
00:56:01,240 --> 00:55:59,690
through lips or whether it was her mind

1399
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:01,250
I never saw him or could see anything on

1400
00:56:07,630 --> 00:56:04,490
them to to answer that but he was polite

1401
00:56:09,370 --> 00:56:07,640
but he was an authority that was going

1402
00:56:11,500 --> 00:56:09,380
to do what they were going to do they

1403
00:56:13,510 --> 00:56:11,510
won't have any nonsense and and they

1404
00:56:15,069 --> 00:56:13,520
were very gentle I mean they didn't even

1405
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:15,079
wagered my hand he was very gentle and

1406
00:56:19,630 --> 00:56:17,450
put the no president Najib on it it was

1407
00:56:20,039 --> 00:56:19,640
very gentle you know the thing they

1408
00:56:22,259 --> 00:56:20,049
showed

1409
00:56:25,019 --> 00:56:22,269
afterwards I mean I might be wrong but

1410
00:56:26,609 --> 00:56:25,029
is the only logical answer I can come up

1411
00:56:28,739 --> 00:56:26,619
with why they showed me that horror and

1412
00:56:32,069 --> 00:56:28,749
interesting enough I'm I mean I've never

1413
00:56:33,569 --> 00:56:32,079
ever illustrated this cat but I'm going

1414
00:56:37,259 --> 00:56:33,579
to illustrate it for this book for third

1415
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:37,269
it men for this book about the the

1416
00:56:40,380 --> 00:56:38,890
aliens the reptilians and all that but I

1417
00:56:43,169 --> 00:56:40,390
am going to do an actual picture of it

1418
00:56:46,049 --> 00:56:43,179
as I could never recapture what I saw I

1419
00:56:47,789 --> 00:56:46,059
couldn't do that I could never recapture

1420
00:56:49,799 --> 00:56:47,799
the horror of what I thought because

1421
00:56:51,630 --> 00:56:49,809
that cat's got me for life I've never

1422
00:56:54,479 --> 00:56:51,640
forgotten this face I can see it but

1423
00:56:55,709 --> 00:56:54,489
trying to actually replicate it is going

1424
00:56:57,359 --> 00:56:55,719
to be different but I look I'm going to

1425
00:57:00,239 --> 00:56:57,369
give it my best shot for this book as

1426
00:57:02,459 --> 00:57:00,249
well you know yeah sure that yeah it was

1427
00:57:04,410 --> 00:57:02,469
wavering it was like it was and that if

1428
00:57:07,589 --> 00:57:04,420
I remember correctly it was blueish it

1429
00:57:09,839 --> 00:57:07,599
was blue electric bluish or not so

1430
00:57:12,209 --> 00:57:09,849
bright as electric blue but it was like

1431
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:12,219
an electric bluish I don't know that I

1432
00:57:16,769 --> 00:57:14,410
can't remember if it had color in it I

1433
00:57:18,959 --> 00:57:16,779
cannot remember but it was certainly

1434
00:57:20,579 --> 00:57:18,969
bluish and I could see the teeth are

1435
00:57:22,499 --> 00:57:20,589
very clever I mean if we had technology

1436
00:57:24,809 --> 00:57:22,509
like that now my goodness would you'd

1437
00:57:26,969 --> 00:57:24,819
make up you can make a fortune you know

1438
00:57:28,769 --> 00:57:26,979
especially that that absolutely perfect

1439
00:57:30,419 --> 00:57:28,779
you know especially projecting it out I

1440
00:57:32,219 --> 00:57:30,429
don't know they can do it with VR now

1441
00:57:34,469 --> 00:57:32,229
they're very clever with his via virtual

1442
00:57:36,209 --> 00:57:34,479
reality systems you know we ever have to

1443
00:57:38,519 --> 00:57:36,219
wear the screen on your head you need

1444
00:57:40,229 --> 00:57:38,529
some kind of receptor for it but they

1445
00:57:42,779 --> 00:57:40,239
could just project it on the ceiling of

1446
00:57:44,759 --> 00:57:42,789
the wall and he was 3d it was like he

1447
00:57:47,459 --> 00:57:44,769
was really there just so Tamara was 9 he

1448
00:57:50,419 --> 00:57:47,469
was his head was really there and that

1449
00:57:53,789 --> 00:57:50,429
is the only the only thing that um

1450
00:57:56,099 --> 00:57:53,799
horrified me about them was ironically

1451
00:57:57,150 --> 00:57:56,109
not then themselves but the cat yeah

1452
00:57:59,339 --> 00:57:57,160
that's fascinating

1453
00:58:02,219 --> 00:57:59,349
anyway unfortunately we've got about a

1454
00:58:06,509 --> 00:58:02,229
minute left so I think we just have to

1455
00:58:09,019 --> 00:58:06,519
wind up and you've got blendable next

1456
00:58:11,579 --> 00:58:09,029
you've got anything important planned or

1457
00:58:13,429 --> 00:58:11,589
well I'm gonna hopefully meet you at the

1458
00:58:21,299 --> 00:58:13,439
car oh yes Jay we'll be seeing you there

1459
00:58:26,609 --> 00:58:21,309
the whole conference looking so for that

1460
00:58:28,380 --> 00:58:26,619
I am too and yeah I mean really I pretty

1461
00:58:30,269 --> 00:58:28,390
well listening out there Philip and

1462
00:58:32,780 --> 00:58:30,279
Ronald to have their own twin soul site

1463
00:58:34,190 --> 00:58:32,790
which is on this network as well

1464
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:34,200
which you should always give us into

1465
00:58:40,730 --> 00:58:37,530
opal I'll put a link to it on my page

1466
00:58:42,740 --> 00:58:40,740
and unfortunately we've got to leave it

1467
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:42,750
there now it's been fascinating talking

1468
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:46,650
to ronald again oh yeah like you you

1469
00:58:52,270 --> 00:58:50,130
really are twin souls you and i can see

1470
00:58:55,430 --> 00:58:52,280
exactly why you call yourselves that now

1471
00:58:58,280 --> 00:58:55,440
dum and tweedle dee dee now you're both

1472
00:59:01,550 --> 00:58:58,290
gentlemen and I'm really proud to know

1473
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:01,560
you I really am and I'm really looking

1474
00:59:05,660 --> 00:59:03,930
forward to seeing you soon anyway

1475
00:59:08,300 --> 00:59:05,670
everyone I'm sorry I'll go say goodbye

1476
00:59:10,990 --> 00:59:08,310
to you now and then let's see it I'll go

1477
00:59:14,670 --> 00:59:11,000
one day up thank you again